Monday, December 1, 2014

A Warning for Married Christian Couples

Brother Olugbenga Oladejo, Complete in Christ Church
Note: This article addresses issues that may not be appropriate for younger readers. In places, it discusses sexual behavior in plain and frank terms. Please exercise appropriate discretion.

Our Lord Jesus Christ has given a message of warning to a pastor named, Olugbenga Oladejo of Complete In Christ Church in Peterborough, England, which I would like to share with you today. It's important to note that this is a warning for Christian married couples, not for sinners.

I have spoken at length with him and listened to his heart as he shared his testimony of how the Lord saved him in 1990, then brought him back again from backsliding in 2008. He was the pastor of Safeway International Ministries in Edinburgh, Scottland before moving to England in 2013, where he is serving now.  I have also spoken to a church member in Edinburgh, named Christopher O., who still joins brother Oladejo live each week for services via the internet. He spoke very highly of brother Oladejo and described him as someone who is spiritually strong, who is not concerned with gathering large numbers of people to himself, but rather about proclaiming the Truth. Having searched the Scriptures, and done our due diligence to verify his godly character, my wife and I both believe with certainty that this message is from the Lord. 

In March 2014, brother Oladejo was taken to hell and shown a department of hell where demons are torturing the souls of deceased Christians, who defiled their marriage bed.  They are chopping people up like a butcher chops up an animal into little pieces, and then their bodies are reconstituting. They were doing it slowly and painfully to achieve the maximum amount of pain and torment.  The souls are weeping and mourning, while the demons are laughing and taking pleasure in what they are doing to these people.

The Lord told brother Oladejo that His children are confused, so they must be warned about these sins that are taking them to hell, so they will not perish.  He visually showed him these people's sins on the "judgment screen" and audibly warned against married couples masturbating on their beds, looking at pornography, oral sex, trying different styles of sexual intercourse to "spice it up," such as "doggie style" penetration from behind, and various positions, including the wife on top (e.g., so-called "rocking horse," "cowboy," or "cowgirl" positions), and hanging your wife (a type of domination and bondage position, involving tying her down, intended to simulate rape). He said the only position that is holy in God's sight is the face-to-face position with the husband on top.

The Scriptures the Lord gave the pastor were first of all Isaiah 33:14, which says: "The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: 'Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?'” He said that hell is so terrible that once you see it, you will not ask any questions. If they told you to stand up for the rest of your life, you would never want to sit down again, if it meant you would avoid going to that place for eternity.

The second Scripture is Isaiah 24:4-5, which says, "The land suffers for the sins of its people. The earth languishes, the crops wither, the skies refuse their rain. The land is defiled by crime; the people have twisted the laws of God and broken his everlasting commands."  The Lord said there are ordinances in the Scriptures about relations between a husband and a wife, and His children have violated these ordinances.

If you read your Bible properly, as Jesus said through this pastor to do, you will know the truth. You cannot dismiss this by saying that it is not written in the Bible how a man and his wife are to properly have sex. It is the same as smoking cigarettes. The Bible does not say smoking cigarettes is sin, but we know intuitively that it is (also see Alcohol and Cigarettes -- Ten Divine Revelations). If you read the Scriptures the Lord gave this pastor and pray for Light to be shed in your heart, God will show you.  The Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.

Adam Knew Eve
For one thing, as he taught in both videos, the Scripture says, "Then Adam had sexual intercourse with Eve his wife, and she conceived and gave birth to a son." (Gen 4:1a). It does not say Eve lay with Adam or that Eve had sexual intercourse with Adam, or that Eve knew Adam.  It was Adam who "knew" Eve intimately.

If you doubt whether this can be used to teach us as married couples how to have sexual intercourse, then let me remind you of the passage in Genesis that Jesus used to teach against divorce.  When the Pharisees came and asked Him whether it was lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason, He asked them what Moses commanded.  They replied that Moses told them to give her a certificate of divorce, and they seemed to view that as God's commandment about marriage and divorce.  However, Jesus corrected them and said,

"Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore god has joined together, let no man separate." (Mat 19:4-6)

Jesus went on to tell them that the reason Moses permitted them to divorce their wives was because their hearts were hardened.  He said, "But from the beginning it has not been this way. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery." (Mat 19:8-9)

So just as Jesus used Genesis 2:22-24 to teach against divorce, He is also using Genesis 4:1 to teach us how to make love to our wives.

The Husband is the Head of the Wife
Secondly, the Word teaches us that the husband is the head of the wife. "For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." (Eph 5:23; cf. 1 Cor 11:3).  He is supposed to love his wife as Christ loved the Church, not lust after her.  He is supposed to take the lead in the relationship, including in the marital bed.  His wife is not supposed to be the aggressor or the one taking the lead.  She is the responder to his love.

The Man is the Image and the Glory of God
Thirdly, in brother Oladejo's video Warning to Married Couples Who Practice Oral Sex, he stated that the Lord told him to say, “Men are my image and men are my glory! Men are the glory of God.  And every time God is looking at you, He wants you to continue to promote more of His glory. If you now change the glory of God into something that is corruptible, into lust, into immorality, the Lord said you will not make it into heaven.”  The Lord said, “If you are doing oral sex, you are not coming to heaven.” And the same goes for other immoral acts you do on your bed.  Do not do these things.  It is evil before the Lord.

The Scriptures the Lord gave him with regard to this were 1 Cor 11:7 and Rom 1:23.

"A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man." (1 Cor 11:7).

Men “exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.” (Rom 1:23).

Brother Oladejo said the Lord told him he should tell you that if you change the glory of God to look like corruptible man or to look like birds, or four-footed beasts, you are not going to come to heaven. You are changing the glory of God into dogs, goats, cows, animals, and into creeping things. You are committing immorality. It's a great sin. It doesn't matter if you are a pastor, bishop, or archbishop. You are not going to make it. Do not change the glory of God into anything on your matrimonial bed or you are not going to heaven. 

The Missionary Position the Only One Holy
Fourthly, it is well known what the "missionary position" is and why it is called that, for the reason this pastor explained.  Missionaries of old who taught their converts about true holiness would teach them that in the marriage bed, face to face with the husband on top is the only position that God has sanctioned. That is a landmarker or boundary stone that was laid by people before this evil generation was born that you and I who live today are a part of.  That was a boundary stone.  We have moved that stone, so we could try new things to fulfill our lusts.  We need to Ask for the Ancient Paths.

I realize that many will balk at this teaching, saying it is unbiblical.  However, a recent research article on penile fractures published in the medical journal, Advances in Urology,  stated in conclusion: "Our study supports the fact that sexual intercourse with 'woman on top' is the potentially riskiest sexual position related to penile fracture" [1]. 

The study examined the cases of forty-four men who attended three hospitals in the city of Campinas, Brazil for suspected penile fractures. Twenty-eight fractures were sustained during heterosexual intercourse, four during homosexual sex, and six after "penile manipulation." Fourteen were in the "woman on top" position, which was the most common position, eight were using “doggy style” with the woman on all fours, and four in which the the cause remained unclear.  Half of the patients reported hearing a "cracking sound" and experiencing pain at the moment of injury. All of these cases were treated on an emergency surgery basis.  Two of them later suffered from erectile dysfunction, following the injury, and one of them was treated by penile prosthesis.

The reason given in the report for the "woman on top" being the most dangerous position was that "...when woman is on top she usually controls the movement with her entire body weight landing on the erect penis, not being able to interrupt it when the penis suffers a wrong way penetration, because the harm is usually minor in woman with no pain but major in the penis." On the other hand, the report stated, "When the man is controlling the movement, he has better chances of stopping the penetration energy in response to the pain related to the penis harm, minimising it."  Therefore, medical science has actually confirmed the wisdom of God's ordinance concerning the missionary position, as well as the risks involved in using other positions and practicing penile manipulation. 

The Marriage Bed Must Be Kept Pure
Fifth, it says in the Bible, "Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." (Heb 13:4).

You can defile the marriage bed by acts you commit by yourself, acts you commit with someone other than your spouse, acts you commit using pornography or other property of satan, and acts you commit with your spouse.  The things the Lord has warned us against in this revelation, some of which I mentioned in the opening, are considered acts of immorality in God's sight. 

A Fruit of the Spirit, Not an Act of the Flesh
Sixth, what we do on the marriage bed must not be an act of the flesh to satisfy the desires of the sinful nature, as Paul said in Galatians 5:

"For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another. But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit." (Gal 5:13-25)

If you are fulfilling the lusts of the flesh, you cannot at the same time be producing the fruit of the Spirit.  The flesh can never produce the fruit of the Spirit and can never please God. On the other hand, the Holy Spirit will never fulfill the desires of the sinful nature.  The flesh and the Spirit are absolutely opposed to one another.  They are mutually exclusive. brother Oladejo says, "The marital bed is for matrimonial love.  If it is not for matrimonial love, then it is sin."

All Things Decently and in Order
Seventh, in the house of God, all things must be done decently and in order. When Michael Shigaba testified of his encounter with Jesus, he stated:

"He [Jesus] said I should open to 1 Corinthians 14:40. It talks about doing things decently and in order. He [Jesus] said, 'Heaven is an orderly place, a decent place. But some people are doing things anyhow in the House of God.' He said, 'In My House.' They are doing things anyhow!"

We as Christians must do all things decently and in order, including what we do in our marriage bed.

The Straight and Narrow Path
Eighth, the way of heaven is straight.  I have learned this from the Word, as well as other divine revelations.  It is literally a straight and narrow path, as the Lord revealed so clearly in Michael Shigaba's Encounter with Jesus.  It is straighter, narrower, and more difficult than most Christians realize.  We must Strive to Enter the Kingdom of God.

As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet: “A voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him. Every valley shall be filled in, every mountain and hill made low. The crooked roads shall become straight, the rough ways smooth.'" (Lk 3:4-5)

"They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer, who loved the wages of wickedness." (2 Pe 2:15)

"Who have left the straight paths to walk in dark ways," (Prov 2:13)

"I instruct you in the way of wisdom and lead you along straight paths." (Prov 4:11)

"In all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight." (Prov 3:6)

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Mt 7:13-14)

"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to." (Lk 13:24)

Also see Deu. 32:5; Psa. 18:26; 125:5; Pro. 2:15; 8:8; 17:20; 21:8; 28:6,18; Isa. 59:8; Acts 13:10; Php. 2:15.

The way of heaven is not crooked or deviant.  The road that leads to life is not lustful or perverse.  It is loving and holy.  The problem is that if our hearts are not full of love, then we rely on lust to generate excitement in the marriage bed.  What we (husbands and wives) need is to be cleansed and purged of all lust and be filled with the love of God for one another.  Then we will experience making love the way God intended it to be.

Watch the Videos Yourself
I urge you to watch all three videos yourself and prayerfully consider what the pastor says.  Please don't make any final decision about this matter until you have done so, since I have only summarized him, and it would not be fair to base your decision on only what I have written without hearing him yourself.



Second Warning to Married Couples

Warning to Married Couples Who Practice Oral Sex

Scriptural Basis
The following are a few more Scriptures, in addition to those referenced earlier in this post:

"Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry." (Col 3:5, NIV).

"It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God;" (1 Thes 4:3-5, NIV).

"Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart." (1 Tim 2:22, KJV)

"Let all things be done decently and in order." (1 Co 14:40, KJV).

"For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God." (Rom 8:5-8)

"So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh-- for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live." (Rom 8:12-13)

Also see 1 Pe 1:14-16,22; 2:11,16; 3:7; 4:1-5,7-8,17-18.

Clarifications
After watching the videos, I contacted brother Oladejo, and received further clarification from him on some of the things he said in his messages.

Hanging Your Spouse
In the videos, he mentioned "hanging" your spouse during sexual intercourse (see Video 1 at 13:33 - 13:36 and Video 2 at 11:12).  He clarified this for me by stating that he meant couples who engage in extreme sexual positions by using sex equipment to make their wives helpless, such as tying them to a bed, so it looks like the wife is being raped.  He said, "Some Christians do extreme sexual positions seen in the pornography and buy equipment to make them look like their wives are helpless or being hanged [or] raped when they have relationships. Such things are great wickedness before the Lord."

Masturbating
He also clarified that when he warns against masturbation, it is not only something you do to yourself. It includes masturbating one's spouse to arousal or orgasm. This is consistent with the dictionary definition. He stated, "Do not use your hand to stimulate anyone to orgasm. It is masturbation done on you by your partner rather than yourself." He warned, "Manual stimulation is masturbation. It is a sin."

In fact, the word masturbate comes from two root words that mean "hand" and "defile".

"Touching your wife lovingly is not a sin, but it becomes a sin when she feels like you are masturbating her. Our hands are not meant for such an act.  If your wife touches you such that you release without penetration, that is a great sin, so we need to be careful...I want to be very clear that when I refer to ‘touching your wife lovingly,’ it is not masturbating her for arousal. I do not say a man should do that.  The Lord told me He detests all forms of masturbation."

A Message from the Lord, Not Man
He also clarified for me that he did not come up with this list of sins himself.  He stated, "I did not know that these things were sins myself until the night I saw this revelation. There was one thing that shocked me when I was standing in front of the judgment screen, the sin of masturbation, which is basically using your hand to bring your spouse to orgasm, appeared on the screen...I was told that God disapproves masturbation, even if it is done on you by your partner."

"I did not come up with a list of sins, but what I was told and shown on the screen. You see the voice of the Lord is audible once you cross to the other side. When he speaks, no one will tell you before you know that Jesus is speaking. So the Lord spoke to me in my mind, and I did not even need to ask, because I know it was the Lord."

He added, "I have waited six months to share this revelation. First, I gain nothing by sharing it. It is the hardest part of God's work that He gave me to do. I have struggled with the Lord asking Him to even allow me just to teach this from the Scriptures instead of sharing the revelation, but He told me He would ask the blood from me (of those who go to hell because I did not share the revelation). What He told me is to warn people, and when I obeyed I felt His peace and presence. So, this is not an amazing dream but a divine revelation. I heard heavenly hymns and songs the day I shared this revelation."

Medical and Physical Health Limitations
There are certain, specific cases in which it is impossible to have sexual intercourse with the man on top. After reading this article, one brother submitted a question about that very issue asking, "What if because of medical or physical restrictions, the only way a couple could have sex is if the man was on the bottom?"

When we initially posted this article and began to receive such questions about medical/physical limitations, my wife and I prayed and asked the Lord how to answer them.  We also contacted brother Oladejo to see if the Lord spoke to him about that. While we were waiting for a response from him, my wife was given Numbers 9:6-13.  In the context, the Lord had told the Israelites to celebrate the Passover on the fourteenth day of the first month.  Then it says:

But there were some men who were unclean because of the dead person, so that they could not observe Passover on that day; so they came before Moses and Aaron on that day. Those men said to him, "Though we are unclean because of the dead person, why are we restrained from presenting the offering of the LORD at its appointed time among the sons of Israel?" Moses therefore said to them, "Wait, and I will listen to what the LORD will command concerning you." Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'If any one of you or of your generations becomes unclean because of a dead person, or is on a distant journey, he may, however, observe the Passover to the LORD. 'In the second month on the fourteenth day at twilight, they shall observe it; they shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. 'They shall leave none of it until morning, nor break a bone of it; according to all the statute of the Passover they shall observe it. 'But the man who is clean and is not on a journey, and yet neglects to observe the Passover, that person shall then be cut off from his people, for he did not present the offering of the LORD at its appointed time. That man will bear his sin. (Num 9:6-13)

If you are thinking about taking an exception, you ought to read that passage. The Lord commanded Moses how and when to celebrate the Passover Feast.  However, some people came to Moses and said they were unclean because they had touched a dead person, yet they wanted to celebrate the feast at its appointed time with everyone else. When Moses prayed about it, the Lord made an exception for them and those who were on a journey at the time of Passover, allowing them to celebrate the feast exactly thirty days later. But the Lord warned that they must observe it according to the statute and not change anything else.  He strictly warned that if anyone who is clean or not on a journey neglects to observe the Passover at the appointed time as the Lord commanded -- in other words, if they take the exception when they are not qualified for it, that person shall be cut off from his people and bear his sin. The same thing applies to anyone who changes the ordinance of God on their marriage bed, who is not truly qualified for an exception.

"Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts." (Pro 21:2)

After we received from the Lord that passage in Numbers, we also received a response by email from brother Oladejo, who replied: "Concerning the questions about people with medical/physical needs, such as stroke patients, I have asked the Lord after my encounter, and received an answer. If it is physically impossible to have sex normally, and therefore, you change the ordinance of God, the Lord told me He would judge you righteously.”

"However, the Lord told me that He knows men that they will say they have one need or the other that made this impossible for them to obey. He told me then that such claims must be true and honest. If you are unable to have sex normally because of medical/physical needs then you have not sinned. But He said that men would hide under this disguise in order to disobey His law. The Lord told me He knows the heart of men."

"The Lord told me he does not like abstinence from sex. Please tell those abstaining they should come together for sex as regularly as they want with each other. God designed sex for us to enjoy and not to abstain.  It is the will of God to have regular sex with your partner. The Lord wants us to take lust and masturbation out of our marital bed."

"At no time did the Lord say He would make exceptions for strange sex like oral sex, masturbation, or vibrators, etc."

To further emphasize the key points of what brother Oladejo has stated, the Lord showed him that; a) He does grant exceptions for married couples with medical/physical limitations. He will judge righteously; b) He does not want any married couple to abstain from sex, but wants them to come together and enjoy each other.  c) However, it is imperative that man does not dishonestly claim to be qualified for the exceptions given by God to those with medical/physical limitations. If he claims this exception when it is not really true, and changes the ordinance of God to fulfill his lusts, the Lord knows the man's heart and will hold him accountable for that sin of disobedience.  He will judge righteously. d) He will not grant exceptions for strange sex.

Lusting After Your Spouse
With regard to lustful feelings of excitement toward one's spouse, brother Oladejo clarified, "Lust is a demon and should not be found on the marital bed. God expects us to have sex in love and not lust. We can have sex out of love, so why would we want sex out of lust as a Christian?" For more on this, please see Lusting After Your Spouse.

Personal Lubricant and Condoms
Lastly, in response to my inquiry, he said, “[Personal] lubricant and condoms were never shown to me as sin at all.”  However, the Lord also did not say to brother Olugbenga that using personal lubricant or condoms is not a sin.  If you have questions, you should seek the face of the Lord Jesus Christ on that (please see Is Contraception a Sin?)

I hope these clarifications help remove any questions you may have about what he meant.

Confirmations
On December 19, nearly three weeks after posting this article, I had been working with brother Oladejo on the clarifications, which we had added to the original article, and he made this statement in an email:

"I have read the article again and have been praying to the Lord. Two nights ago I saw an angel of the Lord in my room telling me to continue with this work. The Lord seriously warned that those who are thinking of breaking His ordinances because of medical/physical reasons should be warned that he will judge them righteously." [Editor's note: This confirmed what the Lord had previously told brother Oladejo, and which we had already added to this article about exceptions and the Lord judging righteously. However, since this angelic visitation, I have now added the Lord's serious warning to the end of that section about exceptions, and I have added the passage from Numbers, which I originally omitted for the sake of space.]

He continued, "Also concerning manual stimulation to reach organism, beloved brother, the Lord has confirmed it to me again that it is a sin. It is masturbation performed on a woman by her husband. We have gone far in lust on our marital bed but the Lord wants us to come back to love."

On December 24, 2014, I received the following email from brother Oladejo:

"Beloved Brother Len, Jesus Christ is being glorified and will be glorified again and again. All glory to His holy name. I am sorry I could not speak to you last night. I felt a heavy sleep and I struggled even to finish my night prayers and I slept off.

"In my sleep I heard a voice of an angel telling me I have messages from the Lord. The message was delivered and it was a voice speaking to me:

'I am pleased with the article written in the blog and I am pleased about the warning that was re-echoed to mankind about taking exceptions.'

"Then I noticed that two other messages were opened, and they were both voices speaking to me, and when I heard them they were two Bible passages: Jude 3 and 1 Thessalonians 4:7.

"Then I heard the voice saying: 'Earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints for God has not called us unto uncleanness but unto holiness.'  These words were continuously read in my ears for a long time as I lost count of how many times it was said.

"After that I heard the voice saying: 'Many of my servants have ignored my warnings to keep holiness on their matrimonial bed, because they enjoy their sins and are afraid to lose membership of their church, so they compromised. Tell them to repent. I am interested in holiness both in the open and in your secrets places.'

"After this the message started again: 'Earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints for God has not called us unto uncleanness but unto holiness.' This was continued until I woke up.

"Beloved brother Len, the Lord is happy. All glory to His holy name.
God bless you.
Pastor Oladejo"

If you need further confirmation about these things, then check out Robert Brownell's Little Lessons on his Divine Revelations website. He stated in lesson number forty, "Keep oral and anal sex out of a marriage. These defile you.  In a dream, I was shown an oral sex demon, it was absolutely disgusting, believe me you don't want anything to do with its sin. The desire for oral sex is usually the desire for someone to physically worship you. Stay away from it.  Keep the spirits of domination and bondage out of a marriage bed also. Also, when a person masturbates, they are having sex with a demon and don't know it."  That is not a recent comment of his, but has been posted for quite some time. After I shared this present article with him about the Warning for Christian Married Couples given to brother Oladejo, he replied, "I've concluded the same things that he talks about, in my fifteen years of marriage"

Another confirmation is from a brother named Mario Martinez, who received a revelation of hell in 1994. In Mario's video testimony of hell, he states beginning at 24:16 that he saw, "Even men and women in there, because of their marriage -- the lusting, the fornication, the adultery, the pornography, the sexual desires that they had, which is vanity, it's bondage with the enemy. God created our marriage to be clean and pure for Him. [There were] a lot of Christians there that were getting couples involved in their marriage, and then repent. A lot of people in there that were screaming and shouting -- they had it worse. I mean they were really being tortured in a lot of ways, because of the disgusting things they were doing in their bedroom sexually with animals and what not."

Another confirmation is from a Hungarian sister in Christ, who received a divine revelation of heaven and hell. As I wrote in my article, Eudoxia Varga Testimony of Heaven and Hell, she was shown a demon in hell, who is deceiving people who are alive on earth, so that they will commit that sin of masturbation and go to that unimaginably terrible place of eternal torment. Eudoxia stated, "There was another room. We went on. And there was a very big bed in it. And I found it strange, because there was a very beautiful woman lying on that bed. And I was even looking at her that, 'Oh, how beautiful she is!' But it really, it wasn’t normal what she looked like, how beautiful she was. Then I saw that she started to do things with herself. Well, I don’t want to use that word. And, she did it—that sin. You understand it. Then she woke up and went to the [devil's] council chamber and started to say whom she deceived. And that was horrible, that even children were in it. And she said, 'And even Christians.' And she started to laugh with an evil laugh. And she praised and kissed the lips of satan. And as she was laughing, there came snakes from her mouth. And as she was laughing, the lust and dirt just came out of her mouth. Literally, the lust and dirt just flowed out of her mouth. And she immediately went to report to satan...And as this woman was pleasing herself in the bed, she was casting spells as she did it. 'There are people,' the Lord said, 'who don’t want to do it, but they do it because they’re in bondage.' This is when she’s casting spells upon them. And if he doesn’t want to do it, he still does it, because he’s in bondage. This is horrible."

These are but a few examples I can cite for you, aside from the many Scriptures calling for sexual purity, some of which I have already mentioned.

A Word to the Skeptic
I would like to just briefly address the skeptic who may be reading this.  I cannot possibly address all possible doubts any skeptic may have, but let me respond to two possible questions:

1. Where in God's word does it explain how to properly have marital sex?

There are many Scriptures that apply to this, including those that directly speak of intercourse (eg., Gen 4:1a; Lev 15:33; 18:19; 20:18), as well as many more that speak indirectly, such as all the ones I mentioned in this article.

In other words, if the Bible tells me that I must love my neighbor, I can assume that this command applies in all situations at all times, including on the marriage bed.  Or I can try to justify myself and ask, "Who is my neighbor?" (Lk 10:29).  So Scriptures that admonish us to do all things in decency and order, flee youthful lusts, to pursue holiness, to flee from immorality, to love our wives as Christ loved the Church (Eph 5:25) are all applicable in every aspect of life, not just the ones that don't have to do with sex.  And by the way, speaking of the way Christ loved the Church, He never lusts after His Church.  He loves her in such a way as to give Himself up for her, making her holy, and cleansing her (Eph 5:26). May the Lord help us be like Him in this world.

2. This revelation implies that even though we do not know or understand that something is sinful, we will still end up in hell despite having faith in Christ to save us.  How can that be so?

This is basic Truth as recorded in Scripture.

In Leviticus 5:15-18, it speaks about unintentional sins.  But look especially at verse 17, which says, "If anyone sins and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, even though they do not know it, they are guilty and will be held responsible."  Our civil laws in society are the same; ignorance of the law is no excuse for violating it, and they will still punish you anyway.

In Romans 2, Paul addresses this.  Especially look at verses 12-16.  In verse 12, he says, "All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law."  So if you haven't heard that something is against God's law, because you don't have the law, you will still perish if you don't repent and ask forgiveness.

It's called ignorance.  "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." (Hos 4:6).  Jesus said, the servant who did not know his Master's will, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few; however, he will not go unpunished (Luk 12:47-48a). When it comes to sin, Ignorance is Not Bliss.

Most people who are living in sin, whether they call themselves a Christian or not, they often do not know that they are living in sin.  I mean, in their hearts when they first began doing it, they knew it was wrong.  But they rejected the truth and bought a lie, so God gave them over to unclean spirits (Rom 1:24-25; Prov 1:20-33).  This is called deception.  The devil is a master of deception, so he deceives humanity into thinking that what they are doing is not sin (Gen 3:1-7; Jn 8:44).  The nature of deception is that if you knew you were deceived, you would no longer be deceived. If people realized that what they were doing was sin, and that it would take them to hell, many would repent.  Others still would not, because their hearts are already so hardened that they can no longer repent.  That's why it is so important not to harden your heart if you hear His voice today (Heb 3:8,15; 4:7).

When you speak to non-believers about Christ, you find that they are ignorant of the fact that they are living in sin and going to hell.  But that doesn't change the fact that they are living in sin and going to hell.  Just because someone doesn't know or believe something does not alter the truth of the matter.  That's why it is important to read the Bible, which exposes the Sins That Will Keep You From Heaven.

And lastly, God will not repent or confess your sin for you.  This is something you must do yourself.  It is a condition for forgiveness (see 1 Jn 1:9; Mk 1:15; Ac 2:38; 2 Tim 2:19).  You cannot be forgiven if you do not repent.  This is why repentance is an essential part of salvation initially, and on an ongoing basis.  A daily life of repentance is the shortest path to God's mercy.  Therefore, if you are still struggling with this message, I recommend reading A Warning to the Nay Sayers, Testing the Spirits of False Prophets, and Restored Truth.
 
Putting it All Together
The Lord began speaking to me two years ago about the need for purity and holiness in the marriage bed, and had already convicted me of certain things He was not pleased with, from which I then repented at that time. This message provided a confirmation that I have indeed heard from God, and also gave me further warnings that I needed to hear at this time.  I do not question this revelation for a moment.  I am positively sure the devil did not give this pastor this revelation.  The devil is the inventor of these evil things, so why would he want to warn us not to do them.

For those who say this is legalism, I will respond to you as the late brother Leonard Ravenhill once said, “When there's something in the Bible that churches don't like, they call it legalism.” And I will add that "legalistic" is often defined as "anyone who follows the commandments closer than I do."

I have done my part in warning you.  As the pastor said, I have cleared myself by warning you, regardless of what you decide to do with it.  I counsel you that we have been led astray by those who have told us that whatever a married couple does together that they both enjoy is fine with God.  That is not true.  It is the devil's deception.

During our engagement period, eighteen years ago, my wife and I read a book by Dr. Ed and Gaye Wheat, called Intended for Pleasure: Sex Technique and Sexual Fulfillment in Christian Marriage; and we now see that much of what he taught was not from God. God is holy and all His ways are holy.  He does not approve of immoral practices, evil acts, lust, or worldliness in the marriage bed of His children.  Anyone performing masturbation and oral sex will not see God, as this is a serious sin before the Lord.  The Lord will will judge all men righteously. Therefore, if you care about your own soul and the soul of your spouse, I urge you to repent and cry out to God for mercy. Any changes you make should be out of total love for Jesus and surrender to Him, understanding Who He is and who you are in Him. Your attitude should be that because you love Him with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, you will do whatever pleases Him by the power of the Holy Spirit.

If you are a minister who has ignored the Lord's warnings to keep holiness on your matrimonial bed, because you enjoy your sins and are afraid to lose members from your church or supporters from your ministry, and you have compromised, then repent. The Lord is interested in holiness both in the open and in your secrets places. Therefore, prepare to meet your God.

[1] Advances in Urology, Volume 2014 (2014), Article ID 768158, 4 pages. Research Article: Mechanisms Predisposing Penile Fracture and Long-Term Outcomes on Erectile and Voiding Functions. Leonardo O. Reis, Marcelo Cartapatti, Rafael Marmiroli, Eduardo Jeronimo de Oliveira Júnior, Ricardo Destro Saade, and Adriano Fregonesi.

Attribution notice: Scripture quotations taken from the NASB, unless otherwise noted. Most other Scriptures taken from The Holy Bible, New International Version® NIV®, unless otherwise noted.

Author's note: Please prayerfully listen to this testimony, and use the Testimony Review Process adopted by this blog, as you decide for yourself whether the Lord has spoken to this pastor.  For issues and concerns, each person must confirm with the Lord, whether something is valid or not.  

If you enjoyed this post, you may also like Lusting After Your SpouseThe Forgotten Sin of Worldliness, Ezekiel Moses Testimony of Heaven and Hell, Is Obedience Optional?, Holy Living in a Perverted World, Avoid Becoming a Corrupted Christian, An Open Mind that Loves the Truth, Sins That Will Keep You From Heaven, Restored Truth, Pleasing the Lord, Ignorance is Not BlissTesting the Spirits of False Prophets, A Warning to the Nay Sayers, The Ways of Life, Eudoxia Varga Testimony of Heaven and Hell, and the other posts on the home page. You may also access my complete blog directory at "Writing for the Master."

Do You Want to Know Him?
If you want to know Jesus personally, you can. It all begins when you repent and believe in Jesus.  Do you know what God's Word, the Bible says?

“Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying, ‘The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.’” (Mar 1:14b-15).  He preached that we must repent and believe.

Please see my explanation of this in my post called "Do You Want to Know Jesus?"
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Len Lacroix is the founder of Doulos Missions International.  He was based in Eastern Europe for four years, making disciples, as well as helping leaders to be more effective at making disciples who multiply, developing leaders who multiply, with the ultimate goal of planting churches that multiply. His ministry is now based in the United States with the same goal of helping fulfill the Great Commission. www.dmiworld.org.

40 comments:

  1. This article is very good indeed and it clarifies most of the doubts about how can a married christian couple should behave in their matrimonial bed.
    I will pray the Lord to confirm me as he did with that pastor because I believe Th Lord God as the same power to do that and I need to have a personal experience too with him in order to speak not about others personal revelacion but my one's.
    Most people inside the church if I tell them about this revelacion that Pastor Olugbenga Oladejo had they will simple not believe it. So I have to pray and fast a lot with humblety and with for the Lords answer. I'm not disbelieving his testemony at all but I need to have tha same or similar experiences with the order in order that my testemony will have a great impact and power among the portuguese speeking bible believers.
    I will only do a comentary about one thing that you stated.
    You wrote above:
    Lastly, in response to my inquiry, he said, “[Personal] lubricant and condoms were never shown to me as sin at all.”
    I didn't understand what do you mean with the expression" [Personal] lubricant"? Excuse my ignorance but I am portuguese.
    Secondly the fact that the Lord did not show the pastor any condoms as being a sinfull thing It doesn't mean that it is not.
    There is no basis in the holy scripture to consell, aprovate, ou order the use of any kind of contraceptive artifacts but there are several versícles so in the Old Testament as in the new Testament condemning it.
    A woman will be saved if she:1Tm 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
    The contrary to these verse woul be: "She shal be condemed if she does not have childs", and in order to do that she will use all kinds of contraceptive methods including condoms in order to avoid being pregant.
    God bless you!
    I'm pastor Luis Guerreiro from Portugal
    This is my email:
    lftgmontesinai@gmail.com

    I will wait for an answer send my an email
    I would like also to know more about your biblical studies

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    1. Dear brother Luis,

      You make some great points!

      Personal lubricant is used to help alleviate dryness a woman may experience during intercourse.

      About my other teachings, I would love to share those with you. I have many other teachings posted at the following sites:

      Writing for the Master
      Seeking the Lord (some recent posts include Ask for the Ancient Paths and The Forgotten Sin of Worldliness and Separation from the World) (Some older ones include Holy Fire Baptism, Avoid Becoming a Corrupted Christian, The Law of Christ, Carrying Your Cross or Cross Dressing?)

      Also see my other articles on Eternal Destinations like Godly Attire & Adornment -- Seven Divine Revelations,
      , Alcohol and Cigarettes -- Ten Divine Revelations, Rock, Rap, and Reggae Music -- Three Divine Revelations, Messages from the Lord for Catholics Worshipping Idols, A Trip to Hell, The Top Ten Things Jesus Taught, and Rachael Mushala Testimony of Hell

      Then there is Working God's Way with Keeping Sundays Holy,
      Resting from Work,Faith Works!, and Righteous Deeds and White Robes.

      There are many more good ones, but those are just a few I can recommend.

      The Lord bless!

      Len

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    2. Dear Pr. Luis,
      If you listen to the testimony of another brother named Gabriel Doufle from Togo, at 1:45:00 in the video, he stated that people who use condoms are in hell. He saw people there who were in hell for using condoms. And they wanted to return to earth so they could repent, but it was too late. See http://youtu.be/dttvO6RHhyM?t=1h45m00s. Shalom!

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    3. HOLA HERMANO QUE DIOS TE BENDIGA, TU PAGINA ES BENDICIÓN, APENAS AYER LA ENCONTRÉ, Y CIELOS LASTIMA QUE A LOS VÍDEOS YO NO LES ENTIENDO, PERO OJALA QUE ALGUIEN LOS SUBTITULE PUES SERIA DE MUCHA BENDICIÓN,

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    4. Hola hermano que dios te bendiga. Len

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  2. Bro. LEN.

    I strongly agree with what you said is from our lord and from word which is so true.

    May our lord God bless all your efforts to help the bride of christ.

    You have great reward brother.

    All glory to God.

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    1. Dear bro. Jai, thanks for reading and leaving an encouraging note! Glory be to the Father and to our Lord Jesus Christ forever. What country are you located in? Len

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  3. Tx bro. LEN.

    Your help to the bride of christ is much appreciated.

    God bless u dear.

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  4. HI DEAR LEN,

    I am from INDIA, place called Hyderabad, Hytech City is famous for BPO companies.

    This subject is a debatable in most of the churches who love falsehood. (Luke worm followers of CHRIST)

    They quote Song of Solomon, romantic things, better to get married than burning in lust, they don't understand the spiritual meaning of it.

    They should understand if we carry JESUS the most holy of holies ( Spirit of GOD ) how much more should we be holy compared to the worldly so called religious people.

    I was humiliated ( very decently ) from a previous church where i was part of worship team. The female pastor told the testimony should be torn and throw it in dustbin.
    “ saying – can GOD of love allow a girl to be molested by ORAL SEX demon , just to say that Christians should avoid ( ORAL SEX ).

    She didn’t insult me, but she insulted the LORD’S intention that married couples should not practice the things of BALAAM .

    I passed on the testimony of " Holiness required for Heaven "

    The point made by GOD against { Jewelry, Make up, Coloring hair / Oral sex, Sinful things in the marital bed / Dance in church / POP & RAP singing , etc .

    They didn't like co'z they love the world and the things of this perishing world. Word is clear James 4:4 { friendship with world is ENEMITY WITH GOD }; 1 John 2: 15 -16 { don’t love the world = Lust of the flesh/ Lust of eyes / Pride of Life is not from Heavenly Father }.


    Well I have started to work among the Muslim Evangelism & among Students International./ Even save Roman Catholic community as I come from that background.

    Well enabled me to save an Arab, he got baptised recently, soon will be baptised with Holy Spirit gift of tongues.

    Plz pray for me & for my life partner in the field of missionary { Jewish family full of Holy Spirit }. { GOD WILLING ONLY }.

    Plz pray for the persecution in INDIA among the missionaries and churches.

    God is purifying the body of Christ, we should endure and be faithful till the end.

    You will be in my prayer list for sure Bro. Len

    God Bless you,
    Jai.

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  5. Is it a sin for a man to kiss (mouth to mouth) his wife?

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    1. Dear brother, I don't see why it would be?

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  6. What is the punshment for those who used to use condoms? Gabriel Douffle says nothing about it. What is the difference between these cases:
    1- a man has sex with his wife when she is already pregnant
    2-another has sex with his wife when she is not fertile
    3-a third man has sex with his wife during menaupose
    4-a fourth man uses condom
    In each case I think the seed is wasted. The sperms die and the semen which is not a nutrient is not absorbed into the woman's blood system and eventually flows out along with other vaginal secretions.

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    1. Dear Wilfrid N.A., first of all, why are you attacking brother Oladejo on YouTube and FB?

      Secondly, if you have an honest question, that is one thing. If so, please ask your question. On the other hand, if you don't agree with this personally and choose to use contraception, that is your personal decision, but you don't have to be on a mission to convince others of your viewpoint. Finally, if you disagree and want to have a valid discussion on this forum about your viewpoint, then please follow the guidelines adopted by this blog and substantiate your position with Scripture. The guidelines are at the following link, which I kindly ask you to familiarize yourself with and follow:
      http://eternal-destinations.blogspot.hu/2013/05/testimony-review-process.html

      If you don't agree with the viewpoints of this blog and do not follow these guidelines, then your comments will be rejected. Please note that the guidelines DO NOT say that we are using other revelations of other people to disprove any revelation.

      You have been leaving comments on my articles, which are of an adversarial nature.

      As for Gabriel Doufle, he most certainly does say something about those using condoms. See the section called "Warning Against Contraception [In Hell for Using Condoms, etc]" in my article about brother Gabriel at http://eternal-destinations.blogspot.com/2015/03/gabriel-doufle-kokou-testimony-of.html. He saw people there who were in hell for using condoms. Brother Gabriel used to make a living selling these products when he was in the world before he had this revelation, and now he has stopped. That would be self-defeating and pointless unless he had an actual divine revelation. And the Scripture supports his revelation, whereas you have no Scriptural support for your position or the other person's revelation you quote as a counter viewpoint. If you use logic and look at things from a worldly point of view, you are not going to receive the message of the Lord, because the natural man cannot accept the things of the Spirit of God (1 Cor 2:14).

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    2. HERMANO QUE DIOS LO BENDIGA, Y VOLVÍ A LEER ESTE ARTICULO PUES MI MEMORIA NO ES MUY BUENA, NO ME PUEDO GRABAR TODO. Y MIRE LE SERÉ SINCERO, SABE A MI HAY COSAS QUE ME CUESTAN TRABAJO ENTENDERLAS Y COMPRENDER LAS TAMBIÉN, Y ENTONCES HERMANO DEFINITIVAMENTE EL HOMBRE CRISTIANO NO PUEDE USAR CONDÓN EN LA RELACIÓN SEXUAL CON SU ESPOSA PORQUE DIOS LO PROHÍBE, Y ENTONCES TAMBIÉN PARA LA MUJER CRISTIANA ESTA PROHIBIDO EL CONDÓN. Y MIRE OTRA COSA. - YO ANTES NO LE DABA LA MAYOR IMPORTANCIA A LAS DIFERENTES POSICIONES DURANTE EL SEXO, PUES YO PENSABA DENTRO DE MI, - PERO QUE DE MALO PUEDE TENER COMO LO HAGAN MIENTRAS ESTÉN CASADOS. ASÍ ERA COMO YO PENSABA ANTES HERMANO. -- PERO HACE UN TIEMPO ESCUCHE EL TESTIMONIO DE UN HERMANO, Y ME PARECE QUE ES ARGENTINO, CREO, Y EL FUE AL INFIERNO, Y EL COMENTA QUE DIOS LE DIJO, QUE EL NO QUIERE QUE SUS HIJOS TOMEN A SUS ESPOSAS POR ATRÁS, PORQUE EL NO LO TOLERA, Y AL ENTRAR A ESTA PAGINA VUELVO APRENDER LO MISMO Y AUN MAS COSAS, Y HASTA CREO QUE ESTO ES UNA CONFIRMACIÓN. Y BUENO YO ME PUSE A PENSAR EN ESTO. Y CON EL PASO DEL TIEMPO HE LEÍDO ESTOS ARTÍCULOS Y ME HACEN REFLEXIONAR HERMANO CRÉAME. Y VEO QUE DEFINITIVAMENTE DIOS QUIERE SANTIDAD EN TODAS LAS ÁREAS DE NUESTRA VIDA, INCLUSO EN EL SEXO,

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    3. Hermano, Dios quiere santidad en todas las áreas de nuestra vida, incluso en el sexo. Amen. Que Dios Lo Bendiga. Len

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  7. Brother Len, thank u very much for this article. God bless u richly for ur works. Pls I want to ask if a woman is pregnant for 5 months & above, how will d husband make love to her with her? As u know that d belly will be big by then and u cannot penetrate from d front. So which of the position will be holy before God In heaven. Pls is kissing ur wife mouth to mouth a sin? Warmest regard.
    Isaac Shadrach.
    Pls revert soon.

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    1. Brother Isaac, as long as your wife's pregnancy is progressing normally, there is no reason why someone could not have sex naturally because of pregnancy, as you are asking. Fear of hurting the baby during pregnancy may be one of the most common reasons people avoid sex. However, sex is a natural, normal part of pregnancy, and you won't hurt your baby by making love in the natural position. In fact, you can continue to have sex right up until her water breaks.

      You see, the fluid-filled sac that the baby is inside of, and the strong muscles of your wife's womb (uterus) provide God-given protection for your baby. My advice for you as a couple is to personally seek the face of God if you consider that it is impossible to have sex naturally and let the Lord guide you.

      Kissing on the mouth between married couples is also normal, and there is no Scriptural support to consider it a sin. Feel free to contact me privately through the website at the bottom of this page, by going to the About Us page on that site and using the contact button below the photos on the bottom right corner of the page. The Lord bless you! And congratulations on your pregnancy.

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    2. Thank u Len. Am. Satisfied with ur answers. I will contact u now. God bless u richly.

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    3. Dear brother Isaac, you are invited to the Doulos Training School beginning on September 1. http://writingforthemaster.blogspot.com/2015/07/doulos-training-school.html. Shalom!

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  8. Len can I directly contact this brotha that have dis testimony? Can I get his email address mobile phone number?.

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    1. Isaac, you may contact brother Gbenga through his website for the church at http://completeinchristchurch.org/.

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  9. hello Len, I want to contact bro oladejo to know if its also a sin for a husband and wife to use natural birth control. eg: after a woman has passed her days of fertility and enter her safe period. do God consider it a sin to avoid pregnancy using only such method?

    please if you have the spirit from God to help me or connect me with the brother. God bless

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    1. Dear brother Uche Nweke, brother Oladejo and I have previously discussed the matter of Natural Family Planning and both agree it is not sinful. However, you may contact him via his church website at http://completeinchristchurch.org/. Shalom! Len

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  10. Thanks you for all those messages i would like also to tell you that put a picture of himself God see it like self pride is idol it go against the second commandment and is also one of the plan of the devil to introduce photographie. Then please when you post a revelation from God or you write a book please do not post your picture or reproduce anything from what you see in heaven or hell unless the Lord allow you or it is self pride . Thanks

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    1. Dear Poredge, If it were not for photography, we would not have all these videos with testimonies of holiness revelations. A video is no different than a photo, except that it moves. If you are against photos, you must be against videos. That means you should remove the video you have posted on your profile. You will also need to stop looking at YouTube, news of any kind, and anything else that has either videos or photos or images of any kind, including representations of people and animals. That means that the Jesus Film would be a sin to watch, and so would the Passion Film. Please don't condemn others for doing things that you personally are convicted about and are not even abiding by yourself, sir. Nor does your church abide by that, as they have photos all over their website. Please prayerfully read this article: http://wordistrue.blogspot.com/2013/09/whats-wrong-with-prosperity-gospel.html.

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  11. I Thank JESUS for your work Brother. It is marvelous how sensitive GOD made you to the leadership of HIS Spirit.

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    1. To God be all the glory. The Lord bless you.

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  12. Thank you very much Len for all you are doing,
    From the time God started transforming my life after watching Linda Ngaujahs' testimony early this year,i started having second thoughts on things we do just because others are doing so yet we are supposed to be different, for example the way we trim our hair and leave some parts having much and other parts little hair left, same also for mens'beards. Just yesterday i was thinking about that issue in marriage and i felt something might not be right,we normally take things for granted and i was convicted that God approves the missionary style only for marrieds because even animals have their own way but then why should we copy them anyway? but i was not sure because i couldn't defend it as such. So today i landed on this testimony and i have no doubts am just grateful,i will share it with my husband.
    God bless you so much

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  13. I have been richly blessed by your message this morning. A lot about my idea concerning oral sex in marriages has changed .I hope to follow up to equip my self some more. Thank you sir.

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  14. You're welcome. God bless you!

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  15. i wanted to know ,you can be at the to face to face but may be your wife bending legs or straighten then which position is acceptable. am asking this coz my wife got operated on and to have sex directly with me in between her legs after some time she feels pain and the only option we have is for her to come between my legs while i kneel ie he legs comes between my legs thus she closes them while am on top to a void hurting her wound and that way she is comfortable. i wanted to know if its a sin or not.

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    1. Dear Daniel, grace, mercy, and peace be yours in abundance. The Lord did make an exception for genuine health issues, as I am sure you have read. You care about your wife and do not want to cause her pain, which is loving. God bless you.

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  16. my wife do not feel anything for sex at the normal position idont know why but when she closes her legs and come between my legs as said above by bro Daniel above while i am on top of her. idont know if this is also a health problem that will grant me an exception. she insists she doesnt feel anything when in the missionary position. is it a sin? or what matters is that it is face to face and the man is at the top.Please i need your reply

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    1. Dear sir, I cannot say anything beyond what the Word of God says, and I also would not want to add anything to what the Lord revealed to brother Oladejo. I think I know as much as you do, if you have read your Bible and you read the article.

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  17. I had no knowledge of this, but I believe all that has been said and from this day on I keep these words on the table of my heart.

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    1. Dear Brother Leonardo, thank you for reading and commenting. God bless you. Please feel free to contact me via email. It would be good to stay in touch. Leonard.

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  18. I greet all of you in the name of Jesus. I appreciate your wisdom and revelation, but I have only one objection which I think is very critical. It's about the missionary position. I appreciate the fathers or the ancients of the church and their opinion matters sometimes. at the same time I am not going to allow their idea or opinion to have such an impact if there is no scripture for it. With all due respect I don't really see any scripture that can tell us exactly how to have sex with our wife in term of position except things which are against nature, and we know what they are.

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  19. What is this sexual position describe in the book of Songs of Solomon 2.6:
    Ct 2:6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.
    ????
    To me it's obvious that this the missionary position the only one alowed for us believers to have sex with our wifes.
    The man layed down with his wife on the top of her and face to face with her!!!

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